“This civil service law is the biggest fraud of the age. It is the curse of the nation. p. 11”
George Washington Plunkitt (1842–1924) New York State Senator
Plunkitt of Tammany Hall, Chapter 3, The Curse of Civil Service Reform
“This civil service law is the biggest fraud of the age. It is the curse of the nation. p. 11”
George Washington Plunkitt (1842–1924) New York State Senator
Plunkitt of Tammany Hall, Chapter 3, The Curse of Civil Service Reform
Rupert Boneham (1964) American mentor, television personality, and politician
Rupert on the Issues (2011)
John Bunyan The Pilgrim's Progress
Source: The Pilgrim's Progress (1678), Part I, Ch. IX : Apollyon<!-- (London, Edinburgh, Glasgow, New York and Toronto: Henry Frowde, 1904) -->
Roberto Mangabeira Unger (1947) Brazilian philosopher and politician
Source: Social Theoryː Its Situation and Its Task (1987), p. 45-46
Charles Taze Russell (1852–1916) Founder of the Bible Student Movement
Source: Milennial Dawn, Vol. III: Thy Kingdom Come (1891), p. 102.
James Berardinelli (1967) American film critic
Review http://www.reelviews.net/php_review_template.php?identifier=199 of Basic Instinct (1992). <br class="br">Two star reviews
H.L. Mencken (1880–1956) American journalist and writer
April 1, 1945
1940s–present, The Diary of H.L. Mencken (1989)
“By using power, money, fraud, the enemy is interested in gaining control over the world of Islam.”
Mohammad Emami-Kashani (1937) Iranian politician
Friday Sermon at Tehran University by Ayatollah Mohammad Emami-Kashani. http://www.memritv.org/clip_transcript/en/60.htm May 2004.
Warren Buffett (1930) American business magnate, investor, and philanthropist
1988 Chairman's Letter http://www.berkshirehathaway.com/letters/1988.html <br class="br">Letters to Shareholders (1957 - 2012)
Bob Nygaard private detective specializing in psychic fraud
Psychic Scams Steal Millions From Unwitting Victims https://web.archive.org/web/20180126040018/http://www.miaminewtimes.com/news/bob-nygaard-helps-psychic-scam-victims-9397958, Miami New Times (6 June 2017)
Ann Coulter (1961) author, political commentator
"The 'Bumper Sticker' That Blows Up" (18 July 2007) http://anncoulter.com/cgi-local/article.cgi?article=194. <br class="br">2007
Hermann Samuel Reimarus (1694–1768) German philosopher
Source: Fragments from Reimarus: Consisting of Brief Critical Remarks on the Object of Jesus and His Disciples as Seen in the New Testament, pp. 73–74
John McCain (1936–2018) politician from the United States
Speech to the American Red Cross "Promise of Humanity" conference http://mccain.senate.gov/index.cfm?fuseaction=Newscenter.ViewPressRelease&Content_id=820 (6 May 1999). <br class="br">1990s
“Only a fool or a fraud talks tough or romantically about war.”
John McCain (1936–2018) politician from the United States
Campaign ad, quoted in Newsweek (23 June 2008), p. 21
2000s, 2008
“The Federalists also used bribes, intimidation, and fraud against opponents of the Constitution.”
Michael Parenti (1933) American academic
Source: Democracy for the Few (2010 [1974]), sixth edition, Chapter 4, p. 60
Francis Marion Crawford (1854–1909) Novelist, short story writer, essayist (1854-1909)
The Novel: What It Is (1893)
Will Eisner (1917–2005) American cartoonist
Source: The Plot: The Secret Story of the Protocols of the Elders of Zion (10/2/2005), p.113
Frederick Douglass (1818–1895) American social reformer, orator, writer and statesman
Source: 1850s, My Bondage and My Freedom (1855), Chapter 18: New Relations and Duties.
Will Cuppy (1884–1949) American writer
The Decline and Fall of Practically Everybody (1950), Part II: Ancient Greeks and Worse, Pericles
Charles Fort (1874–1932) American writer
Source: The Book of The Damned (1919), Ch. 11 at resologist.net Ch. 11 at sacred-texts.com http://www.sacred-texts.com/fort/damn/damn11.htm
János Esterházy (1901–1957) Czechoslovak member of Czechoslovak national parliament, russian nation politician and hungary nation polit…
About incoming census in time when pro-Nazi government accelerated anti-Jewish measures. Parliamentary speech on October 8, 1940. <br class="br">Persecution of Jews <br class="br">Source: Meeting of The Slovak Assembly, October 8, 1940. The Joint Czech and Slovak Digital Parliament Library. http://www.nrsr.sk/dl/Browser/Document?documentId=178748
H.L. Mencken (1880–1956) American journalist and writer
April 13, 1945
1940s–present, The Diary of H.L. Mencken (1989)
Warren E. Burger (1907–1995) Chief Justice of the United States from 1969 to 1986
Interview (from min 7:49) https://vimeo.com/157433062 at MacNeil/Lehrer NewsHour by Charlayne Hunter-Gault, PBS television broadcast (Dec. 16, 1991)
Francis Escudero (1969) Filipino politician
The Official Website of the Senate of the Philippines http://www.senate.gov.ph/press_release/2009/1205_escudero1.asp <br class="br">2009, Statement: on the Declaration of Martial Law in Maguindanao
John Kenneth Galbraith book The Great Crash, 1929
Chapter IX https://openlibrary.org/books/OL25728842M/The_Great_Crash_1929, Cause and Consequence, Section V, p 178 <br class="br">The Great Crash, 1929 (1954 and 1997 https://openlibrary.org/books/OL25728842M/The_Great_Crash_1929)
Nathaniel Lindley, Baron Lindley (1828–1921) English judge
Allcard v. Skinner (1887), L. R. 36 Ch. 183.
Charles Fletcher Dole (1845–1927) Unitarian minister, speaker, and writer
The Coming People (1897).
Derren Brown (1971) British illusionist
TV Series and Specials (Includes DVDs), Derren Brown: Séance (2004)
Joseph Lewis (1889–1968) American activist
Ingersoll the Magnificent (Memorial Dedication Address, August 11, 1954)
Warren Farrell book The Myth of Male Power
Source: The Myth of Male Power (1993), Part III: Government as substitute husband, p. 313.
Robert G. Ingersoll (1833–1899) Union United States Army officer
Interview with the Chicago Times, Feb. 14, 1881.
Jim Stanford (1961) Canadian economist
Part 2, Chapter 10, Closing The Little Circle, p. 121
Economics For Everyone (2008)
Will Eisner (1917–2005) American cartoonist
Source: The Plot: The Secret Story of the Protocols of the Elders of Zion (10/2/2005), p.126
Lawrence Wright (1947) American writer
[Wright, Lawrence, February 14, 2011, The Apostate, Paul Haggis vs. the Church of Scientology, The New Yorker, http://www.newyorker.com/reporting/2011/02/14/110214fa_fact_wright?currentPage=all]
Friedrich Hayek (1899–1992) Austrian and British economist and Nobel Prize for Economics laureate
" Remembering My Cousin, Ludwig Wittgenstein https://www.unz.org/Pub/Encounter-1977aug-00020", Encounter ( August 1977 https://www.unz.org/Pub/Encounter-1977aug). Page 20. <br class="br">1960s–1970s
Karl Jaspers (1883–1969) German psychiatrist and philosopher
On Truth (1948), Pt 2, Ch. 3, II, B, 3, b)
Jean-Baptiste Say (1767–1832) French economist and businessman
Source: A Treatise On Political Economy (Fourth Edition) (1832), Book I, On Production, Chapter XVII, Section II, p. 181
Lysander Spooner (1808–1887) Anarchist, Entrepreneur, Abolitionist
Sections I–II, p. 11–12
Natural Law; or The Science of Justice (1882), Chapter II. The Science of Justice (Continued)
Oriana Fallaci (1929–2006) Italian writer
On Norodom Sihanouk, (June 1973), as quoted in Intervista con la Storia (sixth edition, 2011) p. 100
Intervista con la Storia
Christopher Monckton (1952) British public speaker and hereditary peer
Making the police state work for you http://www.climatedepot.com/2011/12/15/fmr-thatcher-advisor-lord-monckton-to-pursue-fraud-charges-against-climategate-scientists-will-present-to-police-the-case-for-numerous-specific-instances-of-scientific-or-economic-fraud/ climatedepot.com, December 15, 2011.
Carl Sagan (1934–1996) American astrophysicist, cosmologist, author and science educator
Emmett F. Fields, in "Atheism : An Affirmative View" (1980) http://www.infidels.org/library/modern/emmett_fields/affirmative_atheism.html <br class="br">Misattributed
Aron Ra (1962) Aron Ra is an atheist activist and the host of the Ra-Men Podcast
Youtube, Other, Debating Dr Dunno https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=mKw8K7o-vwY (August 4, 2015)
David Icke (1952) English writer and public speaker
Source: Icke's 2016 interview https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=qkcqBQyCVD8 on the Richie Allen Show (starts at 01:39:49)
Kazimierz Ajdukiewicz (1890–1963) Philosopher, logician
Source: Problems and theories of philosophy, 1949, p. 49, as cited in Łukasiewicz, 2016.
John Kenneth Galbraith (1908–2006) American economist and diplomat
Source: The Age of Uncertainty (1977), Chapter 2, p. 75
Benjamin Banneker (1731–1806) free African American scientist, surveyor, almanac author and farmer
Letter to Thomas Jefferson on slavery (19 August 1791)
Albert Pike book Morals and Dogma of the Ancient and Accepted Scottish Rite of Freemasonry
Source: Morals and Dogma of the Ancient and Accepted Scottish Rite of Freemasonry (1871), Ch. III : The Master, p. 66
Ron Paul (1935) American politician and physician
Television interview http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=vjH9PoDpATI (1987). <br class="br">1980s
Francis Escudero (1969) Filipino politician
The Philippine Star http://www.philstar.com/headlines/708346/afp-garci-help-bring-closure-fraud-issue <br class="br">2011
Rutherford B. Hayes (1822–1893) American politician, 19th President of the United States (in office from 1877 to 1881)
About the Arrears of Pensions Act (1879) for disabled Union veterans, which Hayes cheerfully signed, which was roundly criticized as too expensive and too open to fraud by unscrupulous veterans fabricating service-related injuries.
Letter to William Henry Smith (19 December 1881)
Diary and Letters of Rutherford Birchard Hayes (1922 - 1926)
Calvin Coolidge (1872–1933) American politician, 30th president of the United States (in office from 1923 to 1929)
Calvin Coolidge, statement on the Teapot Dome scandal, The New York Times (January 27, 1924), p. 1. Quoted by Senator Edward Martin, address to the Mifflin County Republican Committee, Lewistown, Pennsylvania (January 25, 1952), Congressional Record (January 28, 1952), vol. 98, Appendix, p. A400.
1920s
Auberon Herbert (1838–1906) British politician
The Principles of Voluntaryism and Free Life
Richard Cobden (1804–1865) English manufacturer and Radical and Liberal statesman
Speech http://hansard.millbanksystems.com/commons/1843/may/15/abolition-of-the-corn-laws-adjourned in the House of Commons (15 May 1843). <br class="br">1840s
Friedrich Engels (1820–1895) German social scientist, author, political theorist, and philosopher
Die Nationalökonomie entstand als eine natürliche Folge der Ausdehnung des Handels, und mit ihr trat an die Stelle des einfachen, unwissenschaftlichen Schachers ein ausgebildetes System des erlaubten Betrugs, eine komplette Bereicherungswissenschaft.
Outlines of a Critique of Political Economy (1844)
“Fraud and deceit abound in these days more than in former times.”
Edward Coke (1552–1634) English lawyer and judge
Twyne's Case (1602).
John Quincy Adams (1767–1848) American politician, 6th president of the United States (in office from 1825 to 1829)
John Quincy Adams, in The American Annual Register for the Years 1827–8–9 (New-York: E. & G. W. Blunt, 1830), Chapter X, p. 274
“The vast ineptitude of his pretense would be a convincing proof that this was no fraud.”
Jorge Luis Borges book Tom Castro, the Implausible Imposter
"The Improbable Impostor Tom Castro", in A Universal History of Iniquity (1935); tr. Andrew Hurley, Collected Fictions (1998)
Chris Jericho (1970) American professional wrestler, musician, television host, podcast host and author
March 12, 2012 - WWE Raw
Aron Ra (1962) Aron Ra is an atheist activist and the host of the Ra-Men Podcast
Patheos, Orwellian Legislative Duplicity on HB 1485 http://www.patheos.com/blogs/reasonadvocates/2017/05/05/orwellian-legislative-duplicity-hb-1485/ (May 5, 2017)
Geoffrey Hill (1932–2016) English poet and professor
A matter of timing: The Guardian, Saturday 21 September 2002 http://www.guardian.co.uk/books/2002/sep/21/featuresreviews.guardianreview28/print
John Kennedy Toole A Confederacy of Dunces
Source: A Confederacy of Dunces (1980, posthumous), Ch. 1, p. 21
Ronald DeWolf (1934–1991) American critic of Scientology
Affidavit for a US District Court
James Randi (1928) Canadian-American stage magician and scientific skeptic
The Mask of Nostradamus: The Prophecies of the World's Most Famous Seer http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/The_Mask_of_Nostradamus, p. 140–142.
Warren Farrell book The Myth of Male Power
p 314.
The Myth of Male Power (1993), Part III: Government as substitute husband
Arthur Ponsonby (1871–1946) British Liberal and later Labour politician and pacifist
Falsehood in Wartime (1928), Introduction
Bruce Bartlett (1951) American historian
2010s, Obama is a Republican (2014)
Bob Woodward (1943) American journalist
Post Reporter's Pulitzer Prize Is Withdrawn; Pulitzer Board Withdraws Post Reporter's Prize (19 April 1981)
“I know that many artists feel that they are frauds - that's part of the pleasure of creativity.”
David Cronenberg (1943) Canadian film director, screenwriter and actor
Cronenberg: An intellectual with ominous powers http://www.nytimes.com/2006/05/19/arts/19iht-dupont.html (May 19, 2006)
“Fraud and falsehood only dread examination. Truth invites it.”
Samuel Johnson (1709–1784) English writer
Actually said by Thomas Cooper, a U.S. politician.
Misattributed
Norman G. Finkelstein book The Holocaust Industry
"The Holocaust Industry" p. 55
Other sourced statements
Julius Streicher (1885–1946) German politician
Wer sind aber die Geldverleiher? Es sind die, welche schon vor 2000 Jahren von Christus aus dem Tempel gejagt wurden. Es sind die, welche niemals arbeiten, sondern nur vom Betruge leben.
06/01/1927, speech in the Bavarian regional parliament ("Kampf dem Weltfeind", Stürmer publishing house, Nuremberg, 1938)
“Fraud and falsehood only dread examination. Truth invites it.”
Thomas Cooper (U.S. politician)
Lectures on the Elements of Political Economy, 1831.
Jamil Nasir (1955) American writer
Source: Tower of Dreams (1999), Chapter 9 (p. 123)
Aron Ra (1962) Aron Ra is an atheist activist and the host of the Ra-Men Podcast
"13th Foundational Falsehood of Creationism" https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=myfifz3C0mI Youtube (September 3, 2008) <br class="br">Youtube, Foundational Falsehoods of Creationism
Adam Smith (1723–1790) Scottish moral philosopher and political economist
Source: (1776), Book I, Chapter X, Part II.
Warren Farrell book The Myth of Male Power
Source: The Myth of Male Power (1993), Part III: Government as substitute husband, pp. 314-315.
Richard Arkwright (1732–1792) textile entrepreneur; developer of the cotton mill
Source: The Case of Mr. Richard Arkwright and Co., 1781, p. 24
Sarvepalli Radhakrishnan (1888–1975) Indian philosopher and statesman who was the first Vice President and the second President of India
Eminent Indians (1947)
Context: We must respect our own dignity as rational beings and thus diminish the power of fraud. It is better to be free than be a slave, better to know than to be ignorant. It is reason that helps us to reject what is falsely taught and believed about God, that He is a detective officer or a capricious despot or a glorified schoolmaster. It is essential that we should subject religious beliefs to the scrutiny of reason.
“I accuse her of legalizing, on an enormous scale, licentiousness, fraud, cruelty and murder.”
William Lloyd Garrison (1805–1879) American journalist
Address to the World Anti-slavery Convention, London (12 July 1833)
Context: I cherish as strong a love for the land of my nativity as any man living. I am proud of her civil, political and religious institutions — of her high advancement in science, literature and the arts — of her general prosperity and grandeur. But I have some solemn accusations to bring against her. I accuse her of insulting the majesty of Heaven with the grossest mockery that was ever exhibited to man — inasmuch as, professing to be the land of the free and the asylum of the oppressed, she falsifies every profession, and shamelessly plays the tyrant.
I accuse her, before all nations, of giving an open, deliberate and base denial to her boasted Declaration, that "all men are created equal; that they are endowed by their Creator with certain inalienable rights; that among these are life, liberty and the pursuit of happiness."
I accuse her of disfranchising and proscribing nearly half a million free people of color, acknowledging them not as countrymen, and scarcely as rational beings, and seeking to drag them thousands of miles across the ocean on a plea of benevolence, when they ought to enjoy all the rights, privileges and immunities of American citizens.
I accuse her of suffering a large portion of her population to be lacerated, starved and plundered, without law and without justification, at the will of petty tyrants.
I accuse her of trafficking in the bodies and souls of men, in a domestic way, to an extent nearly equal to the foreign slave trade; which traffic is equally atrocious with the foreign, and almost as cruel in its operations.
I accuse her of legalizing, on an enormous scale, licentiousness, fraud, cruelty and murder.
“Strange! that this general fraud from day to day
Should fill the world with wretches undetected.”
Samuel Johnson (1709–1784) English writer
The Tragedy of Irene (1749), Act III, Sc. 2
Context: To-morrow's action! Can that hoary wisdom,
Borne down with years, still doat upon tomorrow!
That fatal mistress of the young, the lazy,
The coward, and the fool, condemn'd to lose
A useless life in waiting for to-morrow,
To gaze with longing eyes upon to-morrow,
Till interposing death destroys the prospect
Strange! that this general fraud from day to day
Should fill the world with wretches undetected.
The soldier, labouring through a winter's march,
Still sees to-morrow drest in robes of triumph;
Still to the lover's long-expecting arms
To-morrow brings the visionary bride.
But thou, too old to hear another cheat,
Learn, that the present hour alone is man's.
José Ortega Y Gasset book The Revolt of the Masses
Source: The Revolt of the Masses (1929), Chapter XIV: Who Rules The World?
Context: No one knows toward what center human things are going to gravitate in the near future, and hence the life of the world has become scandalously provisional. Everything that today is done in public and in private — even in one's inner conscience — is provisional, the only exception being certain portions of certain sciences. He will be a wise man who puts no trust in all that is proclaimed, upheld, essayed, and lauded at the present day. All that will disappear as quickly as it came. All of it, from the mania for physical sports (the mania, not the sports themselves) to political violence; from "new art" to sun-baths at idiotic fashionable watering-places. Nothing of all that has any roots; it is all pure invention, in the bad sense of the word, which makes it equivalent to fickle caprice. It is not a creation based on the solid substratum of life; it is not a genuine impulse or need. In a word, from the point of view of life it is false.
We are in presence of the contradiction of a style of living which cultivates sincerity and is at the same time a fraud. There is truth only in an existence which feels its acts as irrevocably necessary. There exists today no politician who feels the inevitableness of his policy, and the more extreme his attitudes, the more frivolous, the less inspired by destiny they are. The only life with its roots fixed in earth, the only autochthonous life, is that which is made of inevitable acts. All the rest, all that it is in our power to take or to leave or to exchange for something else, is mere falsification of life. Life today is the fruit of an interregnum, of an empty space between two organizations of historical rule — that which was, that which is to be. For this reason it is essentially provisional. Men do not know what institutions to serve in truth; women do not know what type of men they in truth prefer.
The European cannot live unless embarked upon some great unifying enterprise. When this is lacking, he becomes degraded, grows slack, his soul is paralyzed. We have a commencement of this before our eyes today. The groups which up to today have been known as nations arrived about a century ago at their highest point of expansion. Nothing more can be done with them except lead them to a higher evolution. They are now mere past accumulating all around Europe, weighing it down, imprisoning it. With more vital freedom than ever, we feel that we cannot breathe the air within our nations, because it is confined air. What was before a nation open to all the winds of heaven, has turned into something provincial, an enclosing space.
Samuel Adams (1722–1803) American statesman, Massachusetts governor, and political philosopher
The Rights of the Colonists (1772)
Context: Government was instituted for the purposes of common defence … In short, it is the greatest absurdity to suppose it in the power of one, or any number of men … to renounce their essential natural rights, or the means of preserving those rights; when the grand end of civil government, from the very nature of its institution, is for the support, protection, and defence of those very rights; the principal of which, as is before observed, are Life, Liberty, and Property. If men, through fear, fraud, or mistake, should in terms renounce or give up any essential natural right, the eternal law of reason and the grand end of society would absolutely vacate such renunciation. The right to freedom being the gift of God Almighty, it is not in the power of man to alienate this gift and voluntarily become a slave.
Edmund Burke book A Vindication of Natural Society
A Vindication of Natural Society (1756)
Context: The several species of government vie with each other in the absurdity of their constitutions, and the oppression which they make their subjects endure. Take them under what form you please, they are in effect but a despotism, and they fall, both in effect and appearance too, after a very short period, into that cruel and detestable species of tyranny; which I rather call it, because we have been educated under another form, than that this is of worse consequences to mankind. For the free governments, for the point of their space, and the moment of their duration, have felt more confusion, and committed more flagrant acts of tyranny, than the most perfect despotic governments which we have ever known. Turn your eye next to the labyrinth of the law, and the iniquity conceived in its intricate recesses. Consider the ravages committed in the bowels of all commonwealths by ambition, by avarice, envy, fraud, open injustice, and pretended friendship; vices which could draw little support from a state of nature, but which blossom and flourish in the rankness of political society. Revolve our whole discourse; add to it all those reflections which your own good understanding shall suggest, and make a strenuous effort beyond the reach of vulgar philosophy, to confess that the cause of artificial society is more defenceless even than that of artificial religion; that it is as derogatory from the honour of the Creator, as subversive of human reason, and productive of infinitely more mischief to the human race.
Zulfikar Ali Bhutto (1928–1979) Fourth President and ninth Prime Minister of Pakistan
Source: Letter to his daughter (1978), p. 15.
Context: What gift can I give you from this cell out of which my hand cannot pass? I give you the hand of the people. What celebration can I hold for you? I give you the celebration of a celebrated memory and a celebrated name. You are the heir to and inheritor of the most ancient civilization. Please make your full contribution to making this ancient civilization the most progressive and the most powerful. By progressive and powerful I do not mean the most dreaded. A dreaded society is not a civilized society. The most progressive and powerful society in the civilized sense, is a society which has recognized its ethos, and come to terms with the past and the present, with religion and science, with modernism and mysticism, with materialism and spirituality; a society free of tension, a society rich in culture. Such a society cannot come with hocus-pocus formulas and with fraud. It has to flow from the depth of a divine search. In other words, a classless society has to emerge but not necessarily a Marxist society. The Marxist society has created its own class structure.
Frederick Douglass (1818–1895) American social reformer, orator, writer and statesman
1860s, Our Composite Nationality (1869)
Context: I need not repeat here the multitude of reproachful epithets expressive of the same sentiment among ourselves. All who are not to the manor born have been made to feel the lash and sting of these reproachful names. For this feeling there are many apologies, for there was never yet an error, however flagrant and hurtful, for which some plausible defense could not be framed. Chattel slavery, king craft, priest craft, pious frauds, intolerance, persecution, suicide, assassination, repudiation, and a thousand other errors and crimes have all had their defenses and apologies. Prejudice of race and color has been equally upheld. The two best arguments in the defense are, first, the worthlessness of the class against which it is directed; and, second, that the feeling itself is entirely natural. The way to overcome the first argument is to work for the elevation of those deemed worthless, and thus make them worthy of regard, and they will soon become worthy and not worthless. As to the natural argument, it may be said that nature has many sides. Many things are in a certain sense natural, which are neither wise nor best. It is natural to walk, but shall men therefore refuse to ride? It is natural to ride on horseback, shall men therefore refuse steam and rail? Civilization is itself a constant war upon some forces in nature, shall we therefore abandon civilization and go back to savage life? Nature has two voices, the one high, the other low; one is in sweet accord with reason and justice, and the other apparently at war with both. The more men know of the essential nature of things, and of the true relation of mankind, the freer they are from prejudice of every kind. The child is afraid of the giant form of his own shadow. This is natural, but he will part with his fears when he is older and wiser. So ignorance is full of prejudice, but it will disappear with enlightenment. But I pass on.