“So long as antimilitarists propose no substitute for war's disciplinary function, no moral equivalent of war, analogous, as one might say, to the mechanical equivalent of heat, so long they fail to realize the full inwardness of the situation.”

— William James

The Moral Equivalent of War http://www.constitution.org/wj/meow.htm
1910s, Memories and Studies (1911)

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American philosopher, psychologist, and pragmatist 1842–1910

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