“We talk about civilization as though it's a static state. There are no civilized people yet, it's a process that's constantly going on… As long as you have war, police, prisons, crime, you are in the early stages of civilization.”

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American futurist and self-described social engineer 1916–2017

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“We talk about civilization as though it's a static state. There are no civilized people yet, it's a process that's constantly going on… As long as you have war, police, prisons, crime, you are in the early stages of civilization.”

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