“In recent times, Surrealist painters have used descriptive illusionistic academic methods.”

In a letter to Polish poet Jan Brzekowski, ca. 1930, co-publisher of the Franco-Polish magazine 'L'art contemporain'; from Jours effeuillés: Poèmes, essaies, souvenirs, Hans Arp, Gallimard, Paris 1966, p. 63
Arp's critical quote refers to the creation of art by the French Surrealists in which Jean Arp participated for a few years and then departed.
1930s

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Alsatian, sculptor, painter, poet and abstract artist 1886–1966

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