“Through the process of elimination, the observer or some aspect of awareness is indirectly quantified.”

—  Vanna Bonta

Vanna Bonta Talks About Quantum fiction: Author Interview (2007)

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Italian-American writer, poet, inventor, actress, voice art… 1958–2014

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