“Every time a closed system opens, it begins to interact more directly with other existing systems, and therefore acquires all the value of those systems.”

—  Kevin Kelly

Out of Control: The New Biology of Machines, Social Systems and the Economic World (1995), New Rules for the New Economy: 10 Radical Strategies for a Connected World (1999)

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