“Now, to take that which has caused us to create the world, and include it within the world we have created, is clearly impossible. That is why Quality cannot be defined. If we do define it we are defining something less than Quality itself.”

Source: Zen and the Art of Motorcycle Maintenance (1974), Ch. 20

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American writer and philosopher 1928–2017

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