“I don't know what the facts are but somebody's certainly going to sit down with him and find out what he knows that they may not know, and make sure he knows what they know that he may not know, and that's a good thing.”

Talking to reporters about whether President Bush knows about equipment inadequacies in Iraq http://www.defenselink.mil/Transcripts/Transcript.aspx?TranscriptID=1985
2000s

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