“I happened to do the research on the links between al Qaeda and Iraq. (MATTHEWS: And what did you come up with?) SCHEUER: Nothing.”

Hardball with Chris Matthews http://msnbc.msn.com/id/6511081/ November 16, 2004
2000s

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