“Maybe it's a sick fantasy of mine, but I am really looking forward to a debate between a general and a deserter. Plus, I really want to hear President Bush have to say, "Yes, General, No, General."”

— Michael Moore

On prospects of a debate between Wesley Clark and George W. Bush, as quoted at Treason Online (29 October 2003) http://treasononline.blogspot.com/2003_10_26_archive.html
2003

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