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“The wide difference between the two characters, the slowness and want of energy of the Spartans as contrasted with the dash and enterprise of their opponents, proved of the greatest service, especially to a maritime empire like Athens. Indeed this was shown by the Syracusans, who were most like the Athenians in character, and also most successful in combating them.”

Thucydides History of the Peloponnesian War

Book VIII, 8.96-[5]
History of the Peloponnesian War, Book VIII

“Abstinence from all injustice to other first-rate powers is a greater tower of strength than anything that can be gained by the sacrifice of permanent tranquillity for an apparent temporary advantage.”

Thucydides History of the Peloponnesian War

Book I, 1.42-[3]
History of the Peloponnesian War, Book I

“It must be thoroughly understood that war is a necessity, and that the more readily we accept it, the less will be the ardor of our opponents, and that out of the greatest dangers communities and individuals acquire the greatest glory.”

Thucydides History of the Peloponnesian War

Book I, 1.144-[3]
Variant translation: We must realize, too, that, both for cities and for individuals, it is from the greatest dangers that the greatest glory is to be won.
As translated by Rex Warner (1954).
History of the Peloponnesian War, Book I

“The dead lay unburied, and each man as he recognized a friend among them shuddered with grief and horror; while the living whom they were leaving behind, wounded or sick, were to the living far more shocking than the dead, and more to be pitied than those who had perished.”

Thucydides History of the Peloponnesian War

Book VII, 7.75-[3]
History of the Peloponnesian War, Book VII

“We must not disguise from ourselves that we go to found a city among strangers and enemies, and he who undertakes such an enterprise should be prepared to become master of the country the first day he lands, or failing in this find everything hostile to him.”

Thucydides History of the Peloponnesian War

Book VI, 6.23-[2]
History of the Peloponnesian War, Book VI

“still hope leads men to venture; and no one ever yet put himself in peril without the inward conviction that he would succeed in his design.”

Thucydides History of the Peloponnesian War

Book III, 3.45-[1]
History of the Peloponnesian War, Book III

“But as the power of Hellas grew, and the acquisition of wealth became more an objective, the revenues of the states increasing, tyrannies were established almost everywhere…”

Thucydides History of the Peloponnesian War

Book I, 1.13-[1] (See also: Karl Marx, Grundrisse, Introduction p. 7)
History of the Peloponnesian War, Book I

“the freaks of chance are not determinable by calculation.”

Thucydides History of the Peloponnesian War

Book I, 1.84-[3]
History of the Peloponnesian War, Book I

“concessions to adversaries only end in self reproach, and the more strictly they are avoided the greater will be the chance of security.”

Thucydides History of the Peloponnesian War

Book I, 1.34-[3]
History of the Peloponnesian War, Book I

“we must make up our minds to look for our protection not to legal terrors but to careful administration.”

Thucydides History of the Peloponnesian War

Book III, 3.46-[4]
History of the Peloponnesian War, Book III

“The Spartans meanwhile, man to man, and with their war songs in the ranks, exhorted each brave comrade to remember what he had learned before; well aware that the long training of action was of more use for saving lives than any brief verbal exhortation, though ever so well delivered.”

Thucydides History of the Peloponnesian War

Book V, 5.69-[2]
History of the Peloponnesian War, Book V

“their swaying bodies reflected the agitation of their minds, and they suffered the worst agony of all, ever just within the reach of safety or just on the point of destruction.”

Thucydides History of the Peloponnesian War

Book VII, 7.71-[3] (See also: Fog of war..).
History of the Peloponnesian War, Book VII

“Thucydides, an Athenian, wrote the history of the war between the Peloponnesians and the Athenians, beginning at the moment that it broke out, and believing that it would be a great war, and more worthy of relation than any that had proceeded it.”

Thucydides History of the Peloponnesian War

Book I, 1.1-[1] (opening lines...)
History of the Peloponnesian War, Book I

“I think, therefore, that we ought to take great numbers of hoplites, both from Athens and from our allies, and not merely from our subjects, but also any we may be able to get for love or money in the Peloponnesus, and great numbers also of archers and slingers, to oppose the Sicilian horse.”

Thucydides History of the Peloponnesian War

Book VI, 6.22-[1]
History of the Peloponnesian War, Book VI

“It is a common mistake in going to war to begin at the wrong end, to act first, and wait for disaster to discuss the matter.”

Thucydides History of the Peloponnesian War

Book I, 1.78-[3]
History of the Peloponnesian War, Book I

“We hope that you, instead of thinking to influence us by saying that you did not join the Lacedaemonians, although their colonists, or that you have done us no wrong, will aim at what is feasible, holding in view the real sentiments of us both; since you know as well as we do that right, as the world goes, is only in question between equals in power, while the strong do what they can and the weak suffer what they must.”

Thucydides History of the Peloponnesian War

A summary of Athenian statements to the Melians, Book V, 5.89-[1]
History of the Peloponnesian War, Book V

“On the whole, however, the conclusions I have drawn from the proofs quoted may, I believe, safely be relied on. Assuredly they will not be disturbed either by the lays of a poet displaying the exaggeration of his craft, or by the compositions of the chroniclers that are attractive at truth's expense; the subjects they treat of being out of the reach of evidence, and time having robbed most of them of historical value by enthroning them in the region of legend.”

Thucydides History of the Peloponnesian War

Book I, 21-[1]
History of the Peloponnesian War, Book I

“here we bless your simplicity but do not envy your folly.”

Thucydides History of the Peloponnesian War

Book V, 5.105-[3]
History of the Peloponnesian War, Book V

“Right or community of blood was not the bond of union between them, so much as interest or compulsion as the case may be.”

Thucydides History of the Peloponnesian War

Book VII, 7.57-[1]
History of the Peloponnesian War, Book VII

“The fate of those of their neighbours who had already rebelled and had been subdued was no lesson to them; their own prosperity could not dissuade them from affronting danger; but blindly confident in the future, and full of hopes beyond their power though not beyond their ambition, they declared war and made their decision to prefer might to right, their attack being determined not by provocation but by the moment which seemed propitious. The truth is that great good fortune coming suddenly and unexpectedly tends to make a people insolent; in most cases it is safer for mankind to have success in reason than out of reason; and it is easier for them, one may say, to stave off adversity than to preserve prosperity.”

Thucydides History of the Peloponnesian War

Book III, 3.39-[3]
History of the Peloponnesian War, Book III